"Crom!"
Growing up in the 1980s was a pretty good deal for sci-fi movie fans. The epochal success of Star Wars led to a glut of knock-offs, wannabes, and bandwagon jumpers. The quality of these efforts ran the full gamut, from B-grade baloney (Spacehunter: Adventures in the Forbidden Zone) to unexpectedly witty throwaways (The Last Starfighter) to competent space opera (Star Trek II) to indelible, haunting visions (Blade Runner). There was a lot to sift through, a lot to feed a hungry and not too discerning imagination.
Not quite so with sword and sorcery. Though popular fantasy literature exploded in the wake of J.R.R. Tolkien's Lord of the Rings, relatively few tales of wizards, dragons, and derring-do made it to the silver screen. Those of us for whom Dungeons & Dragons was a regular habit, and who yearned to vacation in the fantastic realm of Middle Earth or similar destinations, had little to satisfy us at the movie house. One might have thought that the phenomenal success of Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings films would have altered this, but there hasn't been a comparable avalanche to what followed Star Wars. Fantasy die-hards still find themselves forced to pick and choose from among a limited selection of films, and often must embrace flawed movies that contain a few scenes capturing the essence of this genre's appeal.
I've been a sucker for fantasy for as long as I can remember, yet it's hard to articulate precisely why. It would be easy to chalk it up to straightforward wish-fulfillment, I suppose -- the nerdy boy projecting his personality into the hulking, indomitable barbarian or the nigh-omnipotent wizard, that sort of thing -- but personally I never identified much with most fantasy heroes, with the possible exception of Rings's ambivalent, physically weak, eternally exhausted protagonist Frodo, who only succeeds in reaching his destination because he has friends loyal enough to drag him there. That's something I can relate to. More central to the genre's fascination, I always felt, was the way it projected me into a pre-modern world, a world denuded of cars and telephones and Saran Wrap and insurance forms and sample ballots. My older brother used to complain about the "little bits of paper" that swarm around you in modern life and seem to stifle your every impulse, death from a thousand papercuts. Fantasy clears away all that mundane bric-a-brac and presents a world of landscapes, of grand gestures, of imposing architecture, and of limitless powers as nebulous and instinctual as thought. That much fantasy is politically regressive (all that yearning for monarchy!) and psychologically simplistic is at right angles to its appeal. Viewed cinematically, it's also uniquely capable of inspiring and sustaining the imagination of art directors, special-effects technicians, and costume designers in a way that few others genres can offer.
If fantasy cinema has always had a bumpy ride of it, there are some gems all the same. Two of those gems, flawed though they unquestionably be, are John Milius's Conan the Barbarian and Robert Zemeckis's Beowulf. Though never exactly critical darlings, both films have much to recommend them, and I find them more personally congenial than the Jackson Ring films (though I have a great deal of respect for those yeoman efforts to film the nigh-unfilmable). I like the scrappy, violent, trashy, no-nonsense quality of both films -- their essential lack of pomp and pretense -- and I particularly admire their success in creating genuinely pre-modern heroes, heroes who seem to exist entirely outside any awareness of modern political, racial, cultural, or sexual sensibility. I think it's very difficult for modern filmmakers to avoid infecting their work with the modernism that dwells in their own bones, and when this is achieved, I tip my hat.
I should admit up front that I'm not a devoted fan of Robert E. Howard's Conan the Barbarian stories, though I've read some of them and enjoy Howard's muscular prose, swift plotting, and fecund imagination. Many Howard purists reject the Conan film altogether because it is not true to the spirit of the original stories. I don't particularly dispute that claim, but to me it's largely irrelevant; my concern is whether a film works on its own terms, regardless of the source material. Conan, unexpectedly, does. The film is impossible to separate from its central casting; this is the first time that the Austrian bodybuilder Arnold Schwarzenegger -- probably the most improbable star in the history of Hollywood -- found a role that suited him. His Conan may be nothing like "the real Conan" -- whatever that is -- but he takes on a legitimate reality of his own. It's an unexpectedly good performance -- Schwarzenegger plays Conan as a perpetual innocent, always wide-eyed, always trying to figure things out, and always hewing to a childishly simple moral code. We may laugh at his accent, but who else could do a better job delivering a line like "Crush your enemies, see them driven before you, and hear the lamentations of their women?" I find it unfortunate that some people insist on appreciating this film, and this performance, solely as camp. Sure, there's a lot here that may fairly be called "cheesy," in the special effects, the costume design, and so forth. But the two lead performances -- Schwarzenegger and James Earl Jones as the villain Thulsa Doom (he's worth every penny they paid him) -- are overwhelmingly charismatic; the dialogue catches a genuinely archaic tone without slipping into quasi-Shakespearean ornateness; and Basil Poledouris's superlative score, with its rumbling drums and cacophonous horns, glues the whole improbable business together.
Conan (Arnold Schwarzenegger) and Subotai (Gerry Lopez) discuss theology
I have endless affection for the tiny scene, early in the film, when Conan and his new friend Subotai (surfer Gerry Lopez) sit by a campfire and discuss the gods they worship. The scene's brevity and simplicity are utterly disarming. There's such a light touch here that the male-bonding rituals in a million buddy pictures feel heavy-handed and clumsy by comparison. Conan's unquestioning devotion to his rather unpleasant god Crom -- who will "cast me out of Valhalla and laugh at me" if he doesn't solve the Riddle of Steel -- is touching. The following scene, in which the two heroes run across a wide horizon, seeking adventure just over the next rise, captures the essential appeal of heroic fantasy as well as anything I've ever seen in movies.
Pastures new
Zemeckis's adaptation of Beowulf earned a mixed critical response when it hit theaters a few years back. I fear it's not going to age well, at least in some ways: the motion capture and CG work already looks pretty crude in today's post-Avatar world, and there's little question that Beowulf and his fellow Anglo Saxon badasses dwell deep within the Uncanny Valley. Still, I love that Zemeckis and screenwriters Roger Avery and Neil Gaiman really tried to catch the tone of a piece of pre-modern heroic epic poetry. I haven't anywhere the literary background to discuss Beowulf, the poem, intelligently, nor to place it meaningfully within the context of Western literature. But the extent to which it seems genuinely alien to modern eyes -- to which it seems to blazon out to us from within the murky depths of the so-called Dark Ages, from an age when the limits of the possible were not known, when rumor could bloom to myth, when law's grasp was tenuous and the strength of arm (and arms) usually carried the day -- is something I've felt deeply since first turning its leaves in a high school English Lit class. The psychology, preoccupations, and attitudes of its characters are so distant that it can require a real effort of imagination to get into them. I'm grateful that Zemeckis et al. made the effort. Beowulf's hero is a bully, a braggart, a man without an ounce of introspection or psychological subtlety -- a man of action in the purest sense of the term. As voiced and motion-capture-acted by Ray Winstone, he's pure ego, interested in glory for glory's sake, not particularly nice, and about as sensitive as a lump of wood. Never once does he wink out at us from the shroud of intervening centuries and layers of myth and seem to say, "it's okay, I'm really one of you." He would be as absurd in our world as we would be in his.
Credit, also, to the two major action setpieces in Beowulf -- the battle against Grendel in the mead-hall, and the climactic fight against a dragon, as the aging Beowulf summons the strength to defend his kingdom one last time. Both of these sequences are inventive in the logistics they put into play -- and good logistics, a sense of genuine (if exaggerated) physical forces at play, and creativity and quick-thinking used to overcome or exploit them, are, I've always felt, key to the success of any action sequence. Cause and effect must follow in ways that don't seem to be cheating. The dragon fight is more over-the-top, and perhaps pushes the envelope a bit further than it needs to; but the Grendel battle is, in its way, almost restrained. It puts to us the question of how a normal-sized man, however heroic, might actually do damage to a vengeful monster four times his size. The solution pretty much makes sense. That Beowulf is stark naked the whole time -- his private bits obscured through a series of hilariously framed shots that take a page out of Austin Powers's book -- only adds to the swaggering bravado of the whole experience.
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Neither Conan nor Beowulf is a great film; their flaws are legion. But I consider them both essential movies for the diehard fantasy devotee. They allow us for a while to escape Over There, to that improbable and incoherent realm where Feats of Strength, quasi-Nietzchean palaver, and wide landscapes unmarred by telephone poles, reign supreme.
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And who did he bond with the most?Can Jason share any tales of on set shenanigans or pranks that were played while filming?Did Jason know that Conan was of of Atlantean descendent when he was considering the role of Conan? And if so does he feel a bond with the character?Without spoiling it, can Jason tell us his favourite scene or moment in Conan the Barbarian 3D. And which he enjoyed filming the most?The bulk of my questions are enablers to allow some context to be set as well as hopefully spark some discussion that offers up gold nuggets of insight into both Jason and what to expect from the upcoming Conan the Barbarian. If you think you detect a subtle under current of caution with regards to Conan the Barbarian in my questions. You would be right. I am entirely convinced as yet that the new Conan may be the greatest thing since something that I really like and revolutionised things for me. But I’m optimistic and hoping to be blown away come August 24, 2011.Whether Jason actually answers any of my questions remains to be seen. Many other bloggers and fans submitted questions. So no doubt all questions will be grouped, doubles removed, vetted, prioritised and vetted again till Jason has 20 decent semi intelligent questions to answer.I had assumed that the evening may follow a similar format to An evening with Dolph Lundgren held last December. And although it was incredible evening listening to an erudite and clever child hood hero of mine answering questions and chatting it did feel slightly impersonal.So there was the possibility that the evening might be a hosted QA wherein Jason answers 20 questions put forward. In fact this is lifted out of an email to Live For Film’s Editor Phil on the way to the event “Hopefully it will be a little more personal than the Dolph thing a while back”. At the time I had no idea what was ahead.So I arrive at the rather spiffy Haymarket Hotel and I’m directed to The Shooting Gallery, a large hall like event room. As I walk into the Shooting Gallery I immediately come face to chest with a large Conan standee. It’s the same image as the motion poster released a while back of Conan standing on a pile of skulls.This is based on possibly the most iconic Conan image “Conan The Barbarian” (1966) from comic illustrator turned legendary fantasy artist Frank Frazetta. Which is a nice homage as Frazetta passed away about a year ago. The image was created for Conan the Adventurer the first in a successful series of Conan novels published from 1966, a year after author Robert E. Howard passed away. Fans still maintain that Conan’s success came squarely down to the imagery conveyed in Frazetta’s cover. Such is the raw power of the imagery that it was used in early promotions for Milius’ Conan The Barbarian.As I arrived right on time – the room is still slowly filling up. The Shooting Gallery is very tastefully decorated in a minimalistic hunting theme, which all makes sense. I feel at home, as there are, what I assume African pieces as well as English hunting style sculptures. There is also a well stocked bar at the end of the room and scattered around the room on various tables anthologies of Robert E Howard’s Conan short stories.As I’m alone I immediately start making friends with some of the other people in the room (do not be alarmed this is quite normal in other countries) – who show me the new Conan The Barbarian poster (which is suitably badass and looks to be based on Frank Frazetta’s 1971 Conan The Destroyer), thankfully the event organisers find me as well as some familiar faces I know turn up. Eventually the online people are grouped together and we are all suitably geeky so I make some new friends.It turns out that Lionsgate are true to their word, this really is an evening of ****tails and meeting the new Conan Jason Momoa. Jason will be arriving shortly, meeting groups of people and having an informal chat. I’m immediately blown away by this. This is incredible I am actually quite possibly going to meet CONAN! Lionsgate really have delivered in aces this time and pulled something spectacular together.As we discuss the merits of George Lucas’ 3 Star Wars films. Greedo shooting first, the brilliance of John Millius’ Conan, how bad the sequel was, latest releases, best new films out, The Hunger Games, Dredd, Karl Urban, Pathfinder, Marcus Nispel, Friday the 13th, The Texas Chainsaw Massacre, Stathamthon, Jason Momoa, Robert E Howard’s Conan, Solomon Kane, the marketing materials for the Conan so far. As well as just enjoying the moment brought on by the anticipation of the evenings events. You know as film geeks do.Eventually Jason Momoa arrives, we know he arrived because his 6’4 frame towers above almost everyone in the room, he is wearing a distinctive bowler hat and most of the ladies seem to have migrated in the same direction at the same time. The buzz in the room reaches near fever pitch, seriously I had thought the room must have been packed to capacity and then some but checking my photos afterwards it was actually fairly intimate and exclusive gathering.Jason makes his way around the room chaperoned between parties and groups and manages to pick up a really cool, black leather-bound hardcover edition of Robert E. Howard’s The Complete Chronicles Of Conan on the way. I have to say while Jason made his way around the room it was clear that he was taking care of the book and felt some bond with it.Eventually we are presented to Jason and I greet him with by throwing horns and a loud Yeaaaa!! (This bit was in my head). Hells yea! I’m meeting Conan.Thankfully he doesn’t leave me hanging and Yea’s me back with a big smile. We are introduced to him, he has firm handshake with no hint of having to compensate by trying to crush my hand. We chat for about 5 minutes during which it becomes apparent that Jason is energetic, earthy and overall a warm happy person, very un-like the blunt and brutal savage that he will hopefully be portraying in Conan the Barbarian.Physically he is big, but a fit and toned panther like big not a balloon muscle big. Despite his impossibly broad shoulders he moves with ease and is obviously very in touch and comfortable with his physicality, as one would expect. Dark intense eyes peer from underneath the brim of his bowler and long dark hair. On the right side of his face is a barely noticeable scar that he picked up (in my understanding a very one sided) bar fight a couple of years ago.On his left fore arm is a very visible and large bracelet like tattoo made up of triangles that wraps around his entire forearm, this signifies his family’s Aumakua, Hawaiian spirit protector, the shark, the triangles are symbolic of shark’s teeth. On the underside of his right forearm is a relatively more subtle tattoo that looks like a dotted line running up the back of his arm. And he is wearing a thin thread on his wrist.His voice is full of life and varies instantly from low, slow thoughtful and raspy to contagiously raucous enthusiasm with a slight twang that I can’t quite place, possibly L.A? Hawaii? Canada?As my photos would later reveal he can also switch from merriment and smiles to instant bad ass. If you look at the photo at the top of the page -a0we were joking around and laughing. Click the photo is taken and we carry on chatting at no point did I get hint of the Conan like face he was pulling. It’s the same Conan face from one of the earlier released official set photos. Which I assumed was mostly film makeup. No it’s all him.During our chat with Jason we discussed various subjects, unfortunately not in any great depth as we have limited time with him and this was a fairly casual conversation. During our chat we found out that- Jason landed the role of Conan as when he auditioned for the role of Khal Drogo the savage king in Game of Thrones, by chance the Casting Director was also casting for Conan the Barbarian and after going off to do Game of Thrones he tested for Conan and bada bing bada boom here he is.- With his Conan role being so physical demanding he trained by pulling cows and did lots of weights. He also went to special training boot camps as well as undertook samurai training to hone his sword skills. And he feels pretty Kick ass – so we can expect some bad ass sword fights. He did mention that if he a sword of some sort, pretty much all our heads would be off. Again he was joking (I think).Earlier today I had a look around some of his earlier Stargate Atlantis stuff (which I haven’t watched at all) and too be honest it looks like Jason can handle himself very well in both the hand to hand as well as sword fight stakes. So I’m unsure of exactly how much additional training he may have actually needed.Then I asked, not what is best in life but,a0Jason, what is The Riddle of Steel?Jason Momoa: “The Riddle of Steel? I don’t know that. But not a lot of people know this, and no offense to the Arnold films but I haven’t seen them. I know everyone is like WTF when I say that.I was about 2 years old when the first one came out and it wasn’t really childhood viewing. Also I was a bit complicated, to this day I don’t have a cell phone, I don’t have a computer, I don’t have e-mail, I don’t have a TV. But I love to read. It’s barbaric but it’s easy for me to move around that way.Also growing up both my parents were artists so I loved painting, I grew up with Frank Frazetta’s Conan paintings and I love those paintings but I didn’t see the movies.”OK! I assumed that The Riddle of Steel was an integral part of Robert E. Howard‘s Conan. But after digging around it turns out The Riddle of Steel was never actually mentioned in the books at all.The fact that Jason knew that The Riddle of Steel was only created for the povuires films and not part of Howard’s Conan mythos. Tells me he knows a fair amount about the source material. But more importantly I really didn’t expect his answer. At best I expected Jason to say something like I’ve studied the films and blah, blah, blah …. and at the very least I thought some sort of appeasing hat tip to the povuires films would be made.But with his answer Jason Momoa let me know that he was his own person and that the povuires Conans may have had their place but with respect – this is his Conan. His uncompromising take on the issue did go some of the way to clearing some of the doubts that I had about the new Conan.Through the remainder of the evening and today I mulled this over and too be honest I am immensely impressed with Jason’s take on the whole thing. By the end of the evening this one answer had pretty much moved me from being fairly suspicious of Conan the Barbarian to actually having my first tingles of – hey Conan the Barbarian might actually be a damn seriously bad ass film. By the time I am writing this I’ll be seeing Conan for one reason and one reason alone to see Jason Momoa’s Conan kick ass. On the negative side of this my expectations are moving into that place that where the disappointment dragons lurk and I have now watched bot the teaser as well as the trailer in excitement.By the way the answer to The Riddle of Steel is that: Flesh is stronger than steel.Then I made a huge mistake and asked him:Have you seen the new Conan poster yet?Jason Momoa: “No, no yet. They haven’t shown me anything yet.”Bad move on my part as, at this point I drop out of the conversation while I frantically search the internet on my phone for a decent version of the poster, only to find more after the jumps… and cut off versions. Eventually I decide I would rather chat with Conan than pour over the pic on my too small to do the poster justice phone. Still would have been cool.Then I ask:What are going to be bringing to Conan?Jason Momoa: “This, all of this”.Now reading that off the page is not going to have the same effect as a muscular 6’4 guy raising himself to his entire length, flexing his muscles in a menacing pose while he locks eyes with you and booms “THIS, ALL OF THIS”.And then just as quickly he cracks a smile and we all start laughing. With that we say our good byes, pleased to meet yous and Jason is dragged off to meet more people. However a little later on I managed to catch up with and ask if we could have a quick arm wrestle, which he is happy to do.Only when looking at the picture afterwards did I see the expression on his face. Up until that point I had assumed that this look, the same menacing look that he has in the official photo released a little while back was Jason caked in film makeup to make him look more Conan like. No! That’s all himOh! Who won? I hear you say. Let’s just call it a draw till we meet again. And with that he was off into the crowd mingling with othersJason Momoa left me with the reinforced picture I had of him, that he is an energetic, earthy zen like guy very in touch with the spiritual side of things. He also impressed me by coming across as his own person without having to be arrogant or with faux humility and most of all left me in no doubt that he is going to be one great Conan the Barbarian.I’m hoping that before Conan is unleashed onto screens this August that Lionsgate adopt some very brash and confident marketing in line with the 1966 tagline used to sell Conan books. The one where it is promised that Conan is “A hero mightier than Tarzan with adventures more imaginative than “Lord of the Rings“!Conan The Barbarian will be released in the UK on 24 August, 2011
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from Sean Hood, who’s answered a quitseon on Quora regarding the R-Rated nature of the upcoming Conan the Barbarian:How graphic is the sex and violence in Conan the Barbarian?It seems that many fans are worried about it being a soft PG-13.As a screenwriter on Conan The Barbarian, I get asked this quitseon a lot.The world of Hyboria, as Robert E. Howard described it, is fleshy and brutal. Bloody beheadings and bare-chested slave girls abound. However, while the movie is unflinching in its depiction of barbarism, slavery and warfare, the violence and nudity emerge from the fabric of the story. It isn’t gratuitous.Robert E. Howarde2€™s stories, although violent and perverse for their time, were not intrusively graphic either. So this is ultimately a movie about the character Conan, a character that will hopefully launch a healthy franchise of movies with stories and characters that celebrate Howarde2€™s work. Yes, youe2€™ll see blood and boobs, but this isne2€™t a Cinemax movie; it’s epic action/fantasy.And yes, it’s rated R.(His bold, not mine)Hopefully the persistent rumours of a PG-13 Conan will be put to rest now, at least until we have irrefutable evidence with an MPAA rating.Sean’s also left a few other morsels on Quora, regarding the film’s relationship with the current comics series:Does the upcoming movie Conan the Barbarian follow the comic books stories?The new movie (I was one of the screenwriters) takes its inspiration directly from Robert E. Howard, the creator of Conan. Although we did not adapt a specific story, we looked at tales such as “Red Nails” and “Queen of The Black Coast” for style, tone, and character.The movie does not follow the Marvel comic books, and it has only a superficial similarity to the Arnold film. It is not a “remake” of the first Conan The Barbarian.On the relationship to the Dark Horse comics:Actually, there will be an Dark Horse comic book series that will follow the film’s plot, and some spin offs based on other characters in the film (so I’m told.)I’d still say that for inspiration the writers looked at the original REH stories, and that for visual inspiration, the director looked at artwork by Frazetta.“Inspiration” is the best word for it, of course, since the upcoming Conan the Barbarian obviously contradicts Dark Horse’s own Born on the Battlefield and Cimmeria story arcs, what with Conan’s parents still being alive past Conan’s childhood and his village still being around and all. I really wonder if Dark Horse are going to reconcile The Mask of Acheron with its existing storyline, or just treat them as stand-alones.Sean also discusses :Who are the stars in this summer’s film Conan the Barbarian?I’d add Leo Howard, who plays Conan as a boy, to the list. He is an extremely intense and physical kid e2€“ he makes one badass boy barbarian, and I think fans are going to love his performance.Having worked with Jason Mamoa on the set of the movie, I can say that he is a true athlete who handles a sword convincingly, speaks with both gravity and humor, and embodies the barbarian better than anyone I have ever seen. (In my opinion, Arnold was a stiff and awkward bodybuilder who could do little more than pose, becoming unintentionally hilarious when he tried to move or speak.)Jason is much closer to Robert E. Howarde2€™s description of a e2€œa born fighting man with a catlike speed that blurred the sight which tried to follow him.e2€ In Mamoa, fans will recognize, not the older graver King Conan, but Conan as a young man who is just beginning a life filled with e2€œred meat and stinging winee2€a6the hot embrace of white arms, and the mad exultation of battle when the blue blades flame and crimson.e2€I mean, Mamoa’s natural voice and presence is just so convincingly barbaric, right down to the real scar down his eyebrow. He walks into a restaurant and you say to yourself, “Holly s***… that’s Conan!”Lastly, there are some memorable performances from Sac3afd Taghmaoui and Nonso Anozie in supporting roles.
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